4Runner Roof Rack Crossbar | 5th Gen (10+)
★★★★★ ★★★★★ 5.00/5 Stars. (26 Reviews)
- CNC cut and formed from .188" steel.
- Sold individually.
- Do not work with 2010-2013 Trail Edition racks.
- Measure 40 3/8" x 3".
- Proudly designed and made in the USA.
Roof Rack Crossbar | 5th Gen (10+)
Designed to work with your stock rails and support any gear you might need. (RTT, cargo, etc...)
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Q Tito Herrera • 03/23/2020, 5:33:50 PM How do thitghten roof rails nuts
A 03/25/2020, 3:11:33 PM Could you please e-mail us at [email protected] with some more clarification on this question please?
Q Justin • 04/09/2020, 1:39:58 PM What is the weight capacity of each rail?
A 04/17/2020, 5:09:59 PM Toyota rates the factory roof rails at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed."
Q JIM GREGORY • 04/14/2020, 2:24:16 PM What is the load rating for one crossbar? Do you have the max load rating of 4Runner factory rails?
A 04/17/2020, 6:35:02 PM Toyota rates the factory roof rails at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed." We would recommend at least two of our crossbars at that weight.
Q MJ • 04/15/2020, 2:51:56 PM Hi! Could two of the crossbars be used to mount Maxtrax boards with four of their Mounting Pins? Just wanting to verify that the slot/hole spacing would be adequate left/right. Thanks.
A 04/17/2020, 7:31:50 PM The hole spacing will not work for the pins as-is. You could always modify the rails for them to fit however.
Q Joseph Zozaya • 04/16/2020, 4:34:35 PM Code: V4RRK-CS 4Runner Roof Rack Crossbar | 5th Gen (10+) How many cross bars are included in this price?
A 04/17/2020, 6:35:02 PM They are sold individually.
Q Cory • 04/16/2020, 5:52:40 PM What is the weight capacity?
A 04/17/2020, 6:35:02 PM Toyota rates the factory roof rails at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed."
Q Nathan Creach • 04/20/2020, 0:40:09 AM How many cross bars do you need for a tent set up?
A 04/20/2020, 3:13:59 PM A minimum of 2, but 3 can help support heavier tents.
Q bryan manning • 04/23/2020, 1:57:53 PM whats the width of these?
A 04/23/2020, 4:41:41 PM They span the stock roof rack rails.
Q Garrett Sivils • 04/27/2020, 10:44:44 AM Will these fit 2013 4Runner SR5?
A 04/27/2020, 3:26:23 PM Yes.
Q Michael • 05/02/2020, 6:08:16 PM Any chance you will make these for 4th gen 4runners? My 03 is 41 1/2 inches across. I would be very interested in a set of 3-4 of these.
A 05/04/2020, 10:07:42 AM These would be a little short for that application. Not sure if we will make 4th gen in the future or not.
Q Josh L • 05/06/2020, 10:00:04 PM If the factory rails are rated at 165lbs, how can these crossbars support a RTT that can weigh anywhere between 100-250lbs (at light end) plus the users of the tent?
A 05/07/2020, 4:02:09 PM Most roof top tents weigh between 100 and 150 lbs. Toyota's rating is on dynamic loads (driving down the highway) static loads when stopped are likely much higher. That's why people have had good luck running a RTT on their stock racks with these bars.
Q Aristotle Lazala • 05/07/2020, 11:39:57 AM Can i used this two cross bars to mount a yakima load warrior cargo on my 2018 4runner?
A 05/07/2020, 4:02:09 PM Yes
Q Bernie Quail • 05/25/2020, 6:22:16 PM I’m interested in attached for the crossbars for luggage and or cooler and a kayak and or paddle board. Where can I find these products to attach to these crossbars?
A 05/27/2020, 3:57:49 PM Sorry we don't offer anything like this. Many universal products will fit though.
Q Leslie Nehring-Redmon • 05/27/2020, 1:40:50 PM I’m trying to figure out exactly how these mount. Could you explain in a little more detail if you don’t mind? Thank you.
A 05/27/2020, 3:57:49 PM They mount with carriage head bolts inserted into the brackets shown in the photos. Those slide into the factory rails and the bars bolt to those.
Q Ethan Paul • 06/02/2020, 0:07:46 AM Do you offer a wind fairing attachment for these bars?
A 06/02/2020, 12:36:31 PM We do not.
Q Carlos • 06/17/2020, 1:08:38 AM My roof top tent weighs 175 pounds. Would I be able to put a roof top tent with these cross bars? And if yes how many of them would I need ? I have 2019 4Runner sr5
A 06/24/2020, 5:36:22 PM That is above the weight capacity of the factory rack.
Q Ginger • 06/22/2020, 10:29:06 AM I can’t find a good picture of the clearance between the crossbars and the roof. We typically carry a cargo box and it has those clamps underneath that are pretty tall until tightened down. Can you provide a picture looking over the tailgate All along the roof with the crossbars installed?
A 06/24/2020, 5:36:22 PM Not much clearance in the middle .75" to 1"
Q Jonathan Dearth • 06/30/2020, 5:58:56 PM Where are the instructions to properly mount these to the vehicle? Mine came with none. Im sure it is fairly straight forward however, there may be something I am not aware of here so instruction sheet would be awesome.
A 07/01/2020, 10:08:43 AM Just added those instructions. They are on the product page.
Q Jeff Steffens • 07/06/2020, 12:20:42 PM I saw one question answered said you have about 1" in the middle of clearance between roof and crossbar. What is the measurement closer to the sides? I have a Yakima surfboard rack and would want to mount that to these crossbars but want to make sure it will clear. Thank you
A 07/07/2020, 2:39:07 PM Closer to 2" of clearance.
Q Rob • 07/07/2020, 10:11:37 PM Is this compatible on the 2020 4runners roof rails? I see some other manufacturers not being compatible with the 2020 4runners.
A 07/15/2020, 1:48:15 PM While there is a part number change in 2019 for the factory rack, we haven't seen any issues on compatibility.
Q Carlo • 07/08/2020, 3:39:39 PM What's the weight of a single crossbar?
A 07/15/2020, 1:48:15 PM 7 (lbs)
Q RYAN • 08/22/2020, 9:25:41 PM Do the 4 elevator bolts and 4 lock nuts come with each bar ordered?
A 08/26/2020, 9:25:38 AM Yes.
Q Démô Barnété • 08/24/2020, 5:48:48 AM If I were to start building a roof rack system that consisted of all Victory4x4 parts. Could I purchase these rails to get me started and then add the side rails, front wind fairing, back fairing and 40• light bar later on??
A 08/26/2020, 9:17:14 AM You could not. These crossbars are designed to work with the factory rails and are different from those used in our full racks.
Q Randy Harris • 08/27/2020, 11:45:48 AM Will these work on a GX 460 2010-2020?
A 09/03/2020, 9:00:28 AM They will not.
Q Ien • 08/28/2020, 7:30:12 AM Each one can hold 165lb, so I need two or three to hold roof tent ? The tent is 190lb. Can you send me more picture about this product after installed, I try to figure out how big the space between the roof top to this rock. Can I put hands and tool in ?
A 09/14/2020, 4:09:50 PM The factory roof is rated at 165 lbs dynamic. Adding more of these rails does not change that number. To our knowledge Toyota does not publish the static load rating.
Q Zach • 09/13/2020, 6:09:55 PM Are these compatible with a 2020 Liimted?
A 09/14/2020, 4:02:23 PM Yes.
Q Jonathan Rangel • 09/22/2020, 6:36:31 PM Do these make a lot of noise?
A 09/24/2020, 11:01:43 AM No
Q Corey • 10/03/2020, 10:09:11 PM Will these work for a TRD Pro (‘18) model?
A 10/06/2020, 2:10:22 PM We have not tested that.
Q T G • 10/12/2020, 5:39:17 PM Do you know of compatible ski racks? Would they work with Yakima Might Mounts like these: https://yakima.com/products/universal-mightymount-set-of-4 ?
A 10/16/2020, 3:25:50 PM We haven't tested those mounts, but it looks like they will work great. If so, that would be a great way to mount a ski rack.
Q Kyle • 10/24/2020, 7:40:22 PM Will these cross bars have enough clearance for Yakima or Thule cargo box? Currently both brands recommend replacing OEM crossbars with new towers and crossbars mounted on the existing raised side rails. 2010 Toyota 4Runner SR5
A 10/26/2020, 5:00:50 PM There probably isn't enough clearance under these bars for the quick release clamps. But if you could direct bolt the boxes to these bars it could work great.
Q Kyle • 10/26/2020, 7:53:59 AM How many do you recommend I have 2 stock obviously but would 3 of these distribute weight better? or is it overkill?
A 10/26/2020, 5:00:50 PM 2 will handle more capacity than the factory rack can. 3 will help with flex depending on what you are mounting up there.
Q Adam Bodkins • 10/29/2020, 11:20:31 AM What is the most common quantity used when you’re seeing people order ? I know I’ll be modifying them to accept my max tracks but I also wonder about being able to put my solar panel up as well but would want a uniform look
A 11/03/2020, 4:03:33 PM We see 2-3 pretty often.
Q David • 11/16/2020, 8:38:21 PM Will a Rhino Rack Ski/Snowboard carrier work with this on a 5th gen 4runner.
A 11/23/2020, 11:48:44 AM We haven't tried that mount specifically. It looks like will work as long as the lower mounts fit between the roof and the rack bars, or if they won't you may need to bolt it directly to the bars somehow.
Q Jonathan • 11/18/2020, 8:58:05 PM When laying a surfboard or paddle board directly flat on the racks do they hit the shark fin antenna?
A 11/23/2020, 11:28:19 AM You will most likely need to space the boards up to clear the sharkfin.
Q Daniel • 12/13/2020, 2:52:26 PM Will these work for 4th Gen factory rails? 2008 limited 4runner v8
A 12/15/2020, 1:34:26 PM We have only tested them on 10+
Q Megan • 12/21/2020, 5:53:30 PM Hi, what are the dimensions of the rack? I’m wanting to attach the Kuat switch rack and want to be sure the thickness and width work. Thank you!
A 12/23/2020, 5:37:41 PM The bars themselves are roughly 3" x 1" x 40" long
Q Larry Brown • 12/22/2020, 7:02:38 PM I see the bar width is 3". What is the bar height? Thanks.
A 12/23/2020, 5:37:41 PM 1"
Q Connor Chapman • 01/03/2021, 10:26:19 PM I want to buy these to mount Maxtrax/rotopax. Are the predrilled holes designed for these mounts? If not what are they designed for?
A 01/25/2021, 11:34:30 AM Our newest revision of these bars that is now shipping has expanded the usefulness of the slots. Including spacing for traction board mounting and Rotopax.
Q Timothy Lynn • 01/14/2021, 6:28:59 AM Do you recommend a single kayak mount that works with these rails?
A 01/15/2021, 6:07:12 PM We haven't tried anything specifically, but they are meant to be pretty universal.
Q Sandy • 01/28/2021, 10:46:34 PM The rails on the bottom of my rtt is 36 inches apart. Can I use your rtt mounting bracket with these bars to mount my rtt? Are the perforations in the bars spaced in such way to allow for that?
A 02/02/2021, 12:30:16 PM Using our RTT brackets the max mounting width is about 33" you could mount the tent directly the bars with a 36" mounting width however. It would be more difficult to actually tighten the mounts depending on your tents clearance and mount style.
Q Larry • 02/05/2021, 11:42:55 AM will these fit on my 2021 trail with the yakima rack taken off
A 02/15/2021, 12:52:47 PM Should be no problem.
Q Jess Whitney • 02/18/2021, 10:48:30 AM I have a 2015 trail (older trail) Will these work?
A 02/22/2021, 9:31:55 AM Yes, they will.
Q Jay • 02/19/2021, 10:30:40 PM Can these crossbars carry the weight of a 165lb RTT mounted on stock factory rails?
A 03/01/2021, 3:13:17 PM The bars can handle the tent yes, the factory rails have held up OK to the weight in our experience, but please use your discretion.
Q Jason Joyner • 03/04/2021, 11:08:50 PM Ad says wont work with Trail Ed 4runners. Why is that? I have a 2016 Trail.
A 03/05/2021, 9:28:04 AM Updated the description. It will work on a 2016 Trail! 10-13 Trail Editions had a different roof rack.
Q Jeffrey Pardun • 03/15/2021, 8:09:13 AM What are these made of? Aluminum or steel?
A 03/16/2021, 3:46:53 PM CNC cut and formed from .188" steel.
Q Nate T. • 03/16/2021, 1:32:39 AM Is there a bracket for mounting an iKamper RTT to these crossbars? Or any suggestions how to?
A 03/16/2021, 3:46:53 PM We have nothing specific, but most RTTs are meant to mount pretty universally.
Q sean green • 03/26/2021, 8:48:26 AM Victory 4x4- Can you tell me the height of the 4Runner Roof Rack Crossbar-5th gen? 40-3/8" x 3" x ?? Thank you for your time and energy. Sean
A 04/02/2021, 1:31:55 PM They are 1" tall.
Q Reuben • 04/06/2021, 2:02:37 PM Do you guys have plans to make a wind fairing add-on for the cross-bars? Looking at these vs the some other bundle options (ex., from LFD off road) and the fairing is the biggest difference I can see
A 04/12/2021, 1:13:17 PM No plans at this time.
Q Fred • 04/21/2021, 0:10:28 AM Can i mount X-bull traction boards ? does whole width and location of them fits ? Thank you!
A 04/21/2021, 2:11:12 PM We haven't tested that brand specifically, but you should at least be able to use one mounting hole front and rear on the traction boards without drilling.
Q Jerome Confesor • 04/26/2021, 9:32:57 AM Hello, so 1 crossbar supports 165lbs. If you have 2 it should support 330lbs and so on? If I have a RTT that weighs 160lbs, would it be safe to put in on 3 crossbars? Thank you.
A 04/28/2021, 5:26:15 PM The factory roof rack is rated to support 165 max. Beyond that is really at your discretion.
Q Andrew Copeland • 04/26/2021, 9:59:46 PM Will these bars with your roof rack accessory mount work to mount maxtrax with their mounting pins?
A 04/28/2021, 5:26:15 PM Can mount the Maxtrax directly to bars with the mounting pins.
Q Brad • 05/02/2021, 10:38:18 AM Would these work on a 2006 GX470? If not, do you have a product that would? I want the flat bars across instead of the curved ones they come with.
A 05/05/2021, 1:19:38 PM They do not work on the GX. We don't have a part that will at this time.
Q sean • 05/04/2021, 9:23:48 PM will these work with your awning brackets to mount an arb awning and also hold some jerry cans? i have a 2021 4runner
A 05/05/2021, 1:30:47 PM Our awning brackets are not designed for these bars, just our full replacement racks.
Q Jenny • 06/06/2021, 12:02:10 PM Can you make these for 4th gen 4runners?
A 06/11/2021, 3:00:33 PM We only offer the 5th gen ones for now.
Q Carl sidwell • 06/07/2021, 12:24:40 PM Will these clear a Line X bedline coating? I’m wanting to do a coating on my roof. I’m also curious to know if these bars will mount up to your side mounts. Thanks in advance
A 06/11/2021, 3:00:33 PM It will clear fine. None of our side mounts are compatible with these bars however.
Q Jose Can • 06/16/2021, 5:01:56 PM Would this fit my 4th gen 4runner?
A 06/25/2021, 12:04:58 PM No they will not.
Q JG • 07/22/2021, 9:30:44 AM Are these cross rails compatible with the Yakima sky rise tent? Also will there be enough clearance from the tent attachments to car roof?
A 07/23/2021, 11:15:25 AM Yes, that will work fine.
Q Mariann • 09/15/2021, 0:01:41 AM Hi. Will these cross bars allow me to mount my X-Bull recovery boards to them? Is there any additional hardware needed for that install? I have an '18 SR5. Thank you.
A 09/15/2021, 2:35:09 PM Yes, if you don't have mounting hardware with your traction boards you can use our Recovery Board Accessory Mount Bolt Pack.
Q Kevin • 10/01/2021, 4:22:50 PM Are there instructions to have to retighten after a certain number of miles?
A 10/05/2021, 5:33:34 PM You can check them after a few hundred miles if you like.
Q luis • 10/04/2021, 9:07:59 PM Will these fit my 2014 4runner TRAIL? will a Yakima SkinnyWarrior Rooftop Basket fit? WITH SkyBox 12 Carbonite 12 CUBIC FT. SKINNY CARGO BOX?
A 10/05/2021, 5:33:34 PM They will fit your 4Runner, yes. We have not tested those specific items on these bars, but we made designed them with enough mounting points to be pretty universal.
Q Art Mendoza • 11/02/2021, 8:10:54 PM Will these fit on 2017 GX 460
A 11/05/2021, 10:27:41 AM No, they will not.
Q Thomas • 11/04/2021, 6:03:10 PM I just ordered these for 2010 4runner Trail Edition with stock roof rails. Please tell me they will fit
A 11/05/2021, 10:17:22 AM Unfortunately, they will not. It is noted on the product page. Contact customer service and they can help you out with the order!
Q Brian H • 12/06/2021, 11:21:25 PM Can you mount a Thule Pulse roof box to these crossbars? Thanks
A 12/14/2021, 6:15:29 PM It is possible, but you may not be able to use the Thule clamps. You would likely have to get creative with mounting it.
Q Arthur r • 12/24/2021, 9:08:39 PM Can these racks fit an aftermarket awning
A 12/27/2021, 9:59:20 AM They could, you may need custom mounting hardware. Our awning mounts are designed for our full roof racks.
Q Kim Redifer • 12/25/2021, 3:29:28 PM Will a yakima platform, 54 long x 48 wide be able to attach to these cross bars....They sure look nice.
A 12/27/2021, 9:20:55 AM You should be able to make it work, but we have not test fit a Yakima platform specifically.
Q nelson falcon • 01/20/2022, 2:02:48 PM does this one fit on a 2022 4runner TRD OFF ROAD PREMIUN?
A 01/21/2022, 12:34:34 PM Yes it does.
Q Christle Moore • 03/11/2022, 8:44:57 AM Do you have an awning attachment bracket that works with these?
A 03/11/2022, 4:11:21 PM We do not.
Q Jhovene • 04/07/2022, 0:24:03 AM Can this fit 2008 lexus gx470?
A 04/13/2022, 12:13:50 PM It will not.
Q Sam • 04/12/2022, 1:07:02 AM Can the new style of the mounting hole patterns allow for the tie down hooks now?
A 04/26/2022, 10:11:42 AM The tie-down rings, yes.
Q Josh Ball • 05/03/2022, 4:35:21 PM Can V4x4 full racks be mounted atop these crossbars?
A 05/04/2022, 10:33:17 AM No, our full rack would be installed instead of these and the factory roof rails.
Q mike • 07/25/2022, 1:18:40 PM I see that there is .75" to 1"clearance between the bars and the center of the roof. I have a cargo basket, and understand not to exceed the 132 ib. (?) weight. Would the bars have any sag , within the weight limit, allowing them to touch the roof of the vehicle? Thanks!
A 08/08/2022, 11:22:36 AM The crossbars are very stout, they will not sag with that amount of weight.
Q Josh • 08/02/2022, 11:35:36 PM What’s lead time on these Rails
A 08/12/2022, 4:12:09 PM 5-15 business days currently.
Q Steven Lee • 09/01/2022, 1:51:13 AM Does this crossbar for 5th gen 4runner only come with one or as a pair?
A 09/01/2022, 9:26:21 AM They are sold individually.
Q Steven Lee • 09/14/2022, 2:54:27 AM Does this crossbar for 5th gen 4runner only come with one or as a pair?
A 09/14/2022, 11:42:18 AM They are sold individually.
Q Jessica • 10/22/2022, 1:25:38 PM What size are the slots and holes on the bar?
A 10/27/2022, 10:35:04 AM Please see the photo that says "Current Hole Mounting Pattern." The holes are a mix of ~7/16" x 2 7/16" long, ~5/16" x 2 5/16" long, and ~5/16" x 1" long slots.
Q DAVE • 11/13/2022, 10:30:16 AM The instructions call for (4) 5/16 - 18x1 inch Square-Neck Elevator bolts along with nylon locknuts. Is this hardware included with each crossbar?
A 11/14/2022, 1:15:04 PM Yes, they are included.
5.00/5 Stars out of 26 Reviews
Write a Product Review: 4Runner Roof Rack Crossbar | 5th Gen (10+)
Peter (NJ) | November 3rd, 2022
These bars are great! Super strong and look much better than the factory rails. Have had them for close to two years now and the powder coat has held up great and the fasteners are still shiny new. I got two of these for a few reasons. 1) I live in NJ and prefer to garage my car, especially in the winter. These are low profile and help give me just enough clearance to fit my lifted 4Runner into the garage by an inch or two. A full rack wouldn't be able to fit. 2) I use just a drop on Rola rack when I need it and it bolts right up to these. Easy on and off and I don't have any wind noise or MPG loss from the Rola unless I have to. 3) for how little I use these, I couldn't justify the cost of a full rack. If I ever buy a RTT, I'll still be set. Perfect product for my application!
Austin (WA) | February 6th, 2022
These rails arrived in great shape and fairly quickly. Super easy install and perfect fitment. Saved a ton of money over a full rack and am happy with the look. Very sturdy and would recommend!
Leo K (Virginia, USA) | January 9th, 2022
I ordered 3 of these to distribute load on the factory roof rails of a 2020 4Runner. Reviewing these and competing brands, the Victory cross bars looked more robust and well thought out for attaching things and tie down placement. I received the cross bars pretty soon after ordering, considering they had to be made, and the packaging was incredible. The bars were individually wrapped and then immobilized with spray foam, then packed in heavy cardboard boxes. Not even a hint of a scuff when they arrived. Installation hardware is high quality and they were super simple to install. I think it took me under 30 minutes and that was including unboxing, cleaning up afterwards, disposing of the trash and putting my tools away. The cross bars were installed with 2 of them as far apart as I could get them, then the 3rd right between them. There is zero wind noise and I can't perceive any reduction in fuel economy. I had a chance to use them to transport lumber from Home Depot and loaded one side with ten 10-ft long 2x4's that were saturated from rain exposure. Lashed them down with ratchet straps. There was no deflection in the rails and they didn't move either, not even going over railroad tracks. Very pleased - well made and highly effective cross bars that are built way stronger than the roof rails.
Bo Shannon (Kansas City) | November 28th, 2021
I purchased and installed 4RUNNER ROOF RACK CROSSBAR on my 2011 4RUNNER. I had the factory crossbars already but I think that the Victory crossbars are far better than the factory ones. The Victory crossbars are FLAT as opposed to the Toyota crossbars which are curved. Victory crossbars have multiple attachment holes and slots as opposed to Toyota bars which have none. Victory bars fit closer to the top of the vehicle which makes for a lower-profile installation. Also, I find that the Victory crossbars produce no noticeable noise as compared to the Toyota factory crossbars. I'm completely satisfied with these crossbars and I recommend them highly.
Steve (Oregon) | November 20th, 2021
For the majority of the items you would want to mount on your roof, tent included, these bars are all you need. If you distribute the weight evenly, you’ll never have a problem, AND, these crossbars will never be your weak link.
Jesse (Minnesota) | September 8th, 2021
SOLID. UNIT. Awesome work Victory. Nice mounting holes and evenly placed. This will future-proof my build because I'd prefer this setup with using nuts and bolts to mount stuff, than the sliding T-bolts. If you're looking for a "CHEAPER" route, grab yourself two of these as Toyota recommends two for the 5th-Gen 4R for wind noise. These are by no means cheap in build though, but for the wallet, it's a nicer to you than a Prinsu rack, or other brands. BUT you'd get about the same use and functionality for the price.
Jordan Vahue (Tampa) | August 6th, 2021
This was a super easy install, and the fabrication is top-notch. Good for experts and newbies.
Kyle (Texas) | July 25th, 2021
I wanted a stout set of cross bars for my rtt. These are fantastic. Not much room for a pass through bolt and nut, but the struggle to mount a tent is universal. Thank you for a cross bar that takes all my structural mounting concerns away. Best regards
Rob (Montana) | May 31st, 2021
4th gen option?
Christopher Canterbury (AK) | May 19th, 2021
Just installed 3 of these on my 2020 4Runner, and they are fantastic! Super easy to install, they are designed beautifully to just clear the side rails so you can load stuff over them, but not high enough to create any drag or noise. Nice and quiet. They are strong as heck and plenty of predrilled holes...some accommodating a 3/8" bolt and some slightly smaller for 5/16" or 1/4" bolts. Such an economical and more practical option over roof racks that require removal of the OEM rails. My sunfroof slides back completely under them, too. Great product, and I'm very pleased with the look of them, too.